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		By: Mish		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sur is one of the easier shorts I&#039;ve read by Le Guin.  Handmaid&#039;s Tale is horrifically awesome. Have you read Oryx and Crake? It&#039;s on my list. Vonnegut&#039;s done quite a bit of SF, off the top of my head, Slaughterhouse-5, Cat&#039;s Cradle, and Sirens of Titan. He&#039;s in my reading pile. Like Atwood, he writes literary fiction that&#039;s also SF. From what I&#039;ve heard Brockmeier is more fantasy/horror, but has a couple books in the SF realm, ie Brief History of the Dead.   

One of SF&#039;s quirks is that it&#039;s more encompassing than specified genres like mystery so not as clearly defined. That&#039;s one reason why I like it, but also think it&#039;s detrimental. SF is speculative fiction that looks at ideas, humanity, technology, or possibilities that may include: the past/future, a different timeline, utopias/dystopias, science and technology like time travel, robots, or an invasion of body snatchers. 

Thanks, I&#039;ve gotten to really like challenges as a way of finally reading certain books and diversifying my reading. They bring about some good discussion and add to the TBR pile. Plus, they allow me to read whatever I&#039;m in the mood for, from classic lit to SF.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sur is one of the easier shorts I&#8217;ve read by Le Guin.  Handmaid&#8217;s Tale is horrifically awesome. Have you read Oryx and Crake? It&#8217;s on my list. Vonnegut&#8217;s done quite a bit of SF, off the top of my head, Slaughterhouse-5, Cat&#8217;s Cradle, and Sirens of Titan. He&#8217;s in my reading pile. Like Atwood, he writes literary fiction that&#8217;s also SF. From what I&#8217;ve heard Brockmeier is more fantasy/horror, but has a couple books in the SF realm, ie Brief History of the Dead.   </p>
<p>One of SF&#8217;s quirks is that it&#8217;s more encompassing than specified genres like mystery so not as clearly defined. That&#8217;s one reason why I like it, but also think it&#8217;s detrimental. SF is speculative fiction that looks at ideas, humanity, technology, or possibilities that may include: the past/future, a different timeline, utopias/dystopias, science and technology like time travel, robots, or an invasion of body snatchers. </p>
<p>Thanks, I&#8217;ve gotten to really like challenges as a way of finally reading certain books and diversifying my reading. They bring about some good discussion and add to the TBR pile. Plus, they allow me to read whatever I&#8217;m in the mood for, from classic lit to SF.</p>
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		By: shelaka		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris - I actually saw that PBS TV movie version back in the 80s. I thought It was well done and thought-provoking, (though now it would probably look dated &#038; low-budget) and handled the weirdness of altering history well. More importantly, it made me read the book, which is always a good thing. I always wondered if the Back to the Future writers took some of those ideas, albeit in a light-hearted way.

Jodi - If you&#039;re interested in another time-skew short read, I recommend Replay by Ken Grimwood (1988). It freaked me out! But it won&#039;t hurt your brain as much as Lathe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; I actually saw that PBS TV movie version back in the 80s. I thought It was well done and thought-provoking, (though now it would probably look dated &amp; low-budget) and handled the weirdness of altering history well. More importantly, it made me read the book, which is always a good thing. I always wondered if the Back to the Future writers took some of those ideas, albeit in a light-hearted way.</p>
<p>Jodi &#8211; If you&#8217;re interested in another time-skew short read, I recommend Replay by Ken Grimwood (1988). It freaked me out! But it won&#8217;t hurt your brain as much as Lathe.</p>
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		By: Jodi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mish, The Handmaid&#039;s Tale is my favorite Margaret Atwood book. I probably read more sci-fi than I think, because I am unsure of how the genre is defined. Does Kurt Vonnegut count? I&#039;ve read all his stuff. How about Kevin Brockmeier? Read some of him too. 

Mostly I read whatever tickles my fancy at the moment it needs tickling. 

I just looked at some of your challenges, and remember that I read LeGuin&#039;s &quot;Sur&quot; story in a women&#039;s fiction class I took in college. 

Nice challenges by the way. I like that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mish, The Handmaid&#8217;s Tale is my favorite Margaret Atwood book. I probably read more sci-fi than I think, because I am unsure of how the genre is defined. Does Kurt Vonnegut count? I&#8217;ve read all his stuff. How about Kevin Brockmeier? Read some of him too. </p>
<p>Mostly I read whatever tickles my fancy at the moment it needs tickling. </p>
<p>I just looked at some of your challenges, and remember that I read LeGuin&#8217;s &#8220;Sur&#8221; story in a women&#8217;s fiction class I took in college. </p>
<p>Nice challenges by the way. I like that.</p>
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		By: Mish		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with MLO about Le Guin, who is one of my favourites. I look at her writing as a ski mountain: easy- YA, fantasy; intermediate- Lathe of Heaven, YA, various works; advanced &#038; black diamond- SF, essays, short stories. Some of her shorts make my head feel like it&#039;s about to implode, but I like the way she&#039;s intellectually challenging. And she&#039;s a great writer with something for most people. 

I think it&#039;s awesome that you enjoyed the book, especially because you&#039;re not into SF. Grouping all SF together is like generalizing about fiction. There&#039;s something for everyone, even those who don&#039;t like aliens and spaceships. I noticed you read 1984, what did you think? 

I began a &lt;a href=&quot;http://stageandcanvas.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/sci-fi-reading-challenge/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reading challenge&lt;/a&gt; partly because of SF&#039;s stigma and stereotypes thanks to Star Trek and partly due to non-SF readers asking for suggestions. Some of the participants were pleasantly surprised that they read the genre without realizing (the Handmaid&#039;s Tale, Frankenstein) and that they liked what they read. If you&#039;re interested, I&#039;ll be hosting it again this year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with MLO about Le Guin, who is one of my favourites. I look at her writing as a ski mountain: easy- YA, fantasy; intermediate- Lathe of Heaven, YA, various works; advanced &amp; black diamond- SF, essays, short stories. Some of her shorts make my head feel like it&#8217;s about to implode, but I like the way she&#8217;s intellectually challenging. And she&#8217;s a great writer with something for most people. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s awesome that you enjoyed the book, especially because you&#8217;re not into SF. Grouping all SF together is like generalizing about fiction. There&#8217;s something for everyone, even those who don&#8217;t like aliens and spaceships. I noticed you read 1984, what did you think? </p>
<p>I began a <a href="http://stageandcanvas.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/sci-fi-reading-challenge/" rel="nofollow">reading challenge</a> partly because of SF&#8217;s stigma and stereotypes thanks to Star Trek and partly due to non-SF readers asking for suggestions. Some of the participants were pleasantly surprised that they read the genre without realizing (the Handmaid&#8217;s Tale, Frankenstein) and that they liked what they read. If you&#8217;re interested, I&#8217;ll be hosting it again this year.</p>
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		By: MLO		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ursula LeGuin is NOT a good introduction to science fiction.  It is the most literary of books of the genre.  LeGuin specifically wrote to challenge the way people thought of the world around them - all of our assumptions.

I must be a really jaded reader as I can&#039;t imagine being able to put the book down in order to go to sleep.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ursula LeGuin is NOT a good introduction to science fiction.  It is the most literary of books of the genre.  LeGuin specifically wrote to challenge the way people thought of the world around them &#8211; all of our assumptions.</p>
<p>I must be a really jaded reader as I can&#8217;t imagine being able to put the book down in order to go to sleep.</p>
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