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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can relate to you. At school I am called ugly on a daily basis and i am tired of it. But think to yourself i like the way i am and god likes the way i am
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can relate to you. At school I am called ugly on a daily basis and i am tired of it. But think to yourself i like the way i am and god likes the way i am</p>
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		By: Levon carswell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2005 03:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i know how you fell ugly people taunting you saying bad things about you. its something i have to deal with on a daily basis. and i am a boy.i am just a washed up looser who has lost it the only girl who truely loves me is in fairbanks,alaskaand who knows if i will ever see her again. ugly people do&#039;nt have no place in the world.Jehovaha does&#039;nt listen to prayers of ugly childreen.we are just here to be picked on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know how you fell ugly people taunting you saying bad things about you. its something i have to deal with on a daily basis. and i am a boy.i am just a washed up looser who has lost it the only girl who truely loves me is in fairbanks,alaskaand who knows if i will ever see her again. ugly people do&#8217;nt have no place in the world.Jehovaha does&#8217;nt listen to prayers of ugly childreen.we are just here to be picked on.</p>
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		By: Crazed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nevermind beauty, you&#039;re strong and brave. Not many would dare to share such vulnerability. I bet you&#039;re tough too, let&#039;s hunt down those mean boys and kick some butt. I&#039;ll help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind beauty, you&#8217;re strong and brave. Not many would dare to share such vulnerability. I bet you&#8217;re tough too, let&#8217;s hunt down those mean boys and kick some butt. I&#8217;ll help.</p>
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		By: Damon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t decide if I should emapathize, deny and persuade or share my experiences.  So, instead, I&#039;ll do all three.

While I didn&#039;t end up getting singled out by the collective teenage population of my school for the way I looked (I was over average in terms of weight and height, but not unusually so) I instead was usually singled out for being the smarty pants.

A bit of an overview which I think will help explain some of the situations later on.  In our district, elementary school was K-6, the middle school (which was attached to my elementary school) was 7-8 and the high school (on the other side of town) was 9-12.

I was moved a year ahead in science and in math in 6th grade.  It worked out well in the beginning, since I was always grouped in the &quot;honors&quot; classes.  Being the honors classes, I was usually around kids which were also the &quot;smarty pants&quot; in their class.  Most of the kids in my science courses were also in my math courses, so after a few months I had adjusted pretty well to being in a class above, made friends, etc.

But when 8th grade came around, the classes I needed to take were over at the high school.  Because of bussing, I ended up taking the first two hours over at the high school, hop on an elementary bus over to the junior high arriving just in the middle of second hour, then finishing out the rest of the day over at the junior high.  Right away scheduling became a problem, since the two honors courses were not offered in the first two hours of the morning over at the high school.  This meant that I was forced into non-honors courses.

This is where the fun began.  Because of scheduling I had to take a normal biology class instead of the honors biology.  &quot;Honors&quot; in 9th grade science meant you took biology a year early to begin with - normally you&#039;d have another year of general science before branching off into specializations during your 10th (Biology), 11th (Chemistry) and 12th (Physics) years.  What did this mean to me?  Meant that here I was, an 8th grader, being put into a mainstream 10th grade/remedial 11th grade biology course.

Not only was I not in with my own grade, but there was no one in the class whom I knew from any of my other accelerated classes.  And as luck would have it, biology was mostly a lab course dealing with fetal pigs, which meant that we&#039;d have to get together in small groups and work together.  The professor was already a bit upset over having to teach to an 8th grader, so I didn&#039;t get any help from him...instead I was on my own.  I ended up hooking up with the three kids who would best be described as &quot;slackers&quot; - most of their discussions were filled with how drunk they had gotten the weekend before.  I think mostly took me on since they figured I&#039;d just do all their homework for them or something.  I muddled through that course for the year, barely passing with a C-.

Somewhere along the line I ended up doing two math courses in one year, which then bumped me up again into an even higher realm of scheduling conflicts.

I was so relieved when, in 11th grade, I could finally escape high school and go take courses over at the University of Minnesota.  The first few classes I took went just fine - but when, in 12th grade, I started taking day classes instead of night/extension courses I met with the exact same resistance I did in high school.  No one wanted a partner who was still in high school - and you couldn&#039;t hide it, since there was just no way I could pretend to be in college when they&#039;d want to meet to do group work the same time I had to be back at high school to work on yearbook or attend some gathering.  Never mind the fact that I was a &quot;young&quot; 12th grader, meaning I didn&#039;t turn 18 until after I graduated.  What a mess.

Things didn&#039;t even end when I got out of high school - I skipped college and hopped right into the professional IT space.  I continued to be met with scorn by shallow people who felt I was some kind of whiz kid who didn&#039;t belong.  I ended up having to leave the company I spent my first 7.5 years professionally, just to get paid what I deserved and lose the &quot;whiz kid&quot; label.  Ugh!

You&#039;re right when you say these things never heal, never leave you.  There are times I see myself slipping into old methods of blending in - pretending I don&#039;t understand something, not speaking up when I see something which my experience tells me is wrong, etc.  Even at a balding, much older than 28 looking state, I still get people who confuse my intelligence and desire to share my experiences as trying to show them up.  It&#039;s incredibly frustrating and I hate feeling like I need to dumb myself down in order to fit in.

Now that you can see my struggle, believe me when I say you&#039;re not ugly.  You never were.  You weren&#039;t back in 8th grade, you aren&#039;t now.  I haven&#039;t yet seen you in real life (I hope it isn&#039;t &#039;cause you&#039;re afraid) but I have seen such tremendous beauty in you through our conversations and your writing.  You&#039;re not supposed to fit in.  You weren&#039;t supposed to back in 8th grade.  The people that fit in were boring.  They still are today.  I&#039;d bet you&#039;ve accomplished much more in your life than they have by many measures...and if nothing else, I highly doubt they have hundreds of readers a day peering at their web blogs.  

Don&#039;t let yourself be defined and constrained by what lay in the past - your future is an unwritten book.  And I&#039;m fairly certain the plot of your book still has many twists and turned before it reaches its climax - I see all kinds of potential bottled up inside of you, just waiting to come out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t decide if I should emapathize, deny and persuade or share my experiences.  So, instead, I&#8217;ll do all three.</p>
<p>While I didn&#8217;t end up getting singled out by the collective teenage population of my school for the way I looked (I was over average in terms of weight and height, but not unusually so) I instead was usually singled out for being the smarty pants.</p>
<p>A bit of an overview which I think will help explain some of the situations later on.  In our district, elementary school was K-6, the middle school (which was attached to my elementary school) was 7-8 and the high school (on the other side of town) was 9-12.</p>
<p>I was moved a year ahead in science and in math in 6th grade.  It worked out well in the beginning, since I was always grouped in the &#8220;honors&#8221; classes.  Being the honors classes, I was usually around kids which were also the &#8220;smarty pants&#8221; in their class.  Most of the kids in my science courses were also in my math courses, so after a few months I had adjusted pretty well to being in a class above, made friends, etc.</p>
<p>But when 8th grade came around, the classes I needed to take were over at the high school.  Because of bussing, I ended up taking the first two hours over at the high school, hop on an elementary bus over to the junior high arriving just in the middle of second hour, then finishing out the rest of the day over at the junior high.  Right away scheduling became a problem, since the two honors courses were not offered in the first two hours of the morning over at the high school.  This meant that I was forced into non-honors courses.</p>
<p>This is where the fun began.  Because of scheduling I had to take a normal biology class instead of the honors biology.  &#8220;Honors&#8221; in 9th grade science meant you took biology a year early to begin with &#8211; normally you&#8217;d have another year of general science before branching off into specializations during your 10th (Biology), 11th (Chemistry) and 12th (Physics) years.  What did this mean to me?  Meant that here I was, an 8th grader, being put into a mainstream 10th grade/remedial 11th grade biology course.</p>
<p>Not only was I not in with my own grade, but there was no one in the class whom I knew from any of my other accelerated classes.  And as luck would have it, biology was mostly a lab course dealing with fetal pigs, which meant that we&#8217;d have to get together in small groups and work together.  The professor was already a bit upset over having to teach to an 8th grader, so I didn&#8217;t get any help from him&#8230;instead I was on my own.  I ended up hooking up with the three kids who would best be described as &#8220;slackers&#8221; &#8211; most of their discussions were filled with how drunk they had gotten the weekend before.  I think mostly took me on since they figured I&#8217;d just do all their homework for them or something.  I muddled through that course for the year, barely passing with a C-.</p>
<p>Somewhere along the line I ended up doing two math courses in one year, which then bumped me up again into an even higher realm of scheduling conflicts.</p>
<p>I was so relieved when, in 11th grade, I could finally escape high school and go take courses over at the University of Minnesota.  The first few classes I took went just fine &#8211; but when, in 12th grade, I started taking day classes instead of night/extension courses I met with the exact same resistance I did in high school.  No one wanted a partner who was still in high school &#8211; and you couldn&#8217;t hide it, since there was just no way I could pretend to be in college when they&#8217;d want to meet to do group work the same time I had to be back at high school to work on yearbook or attend some gathering.  Never mind the fact that I was a &#8220;young&#8221; 12th grader, meaning I didn&#8217;t turn 18 until after I graduated.  What a mess.</p>
<p>Things didn&#8217;t even end when I got out of high school &#8211; I skipped college and hopped right into the professional IT space.  I continued to be met with scorn by shallow people who felt I was some kind of whiz kid who didn&#8217;t belong.  I ended up having to leave the company I spent my first 7.5 years professionally, just to get paid what I deserved and lose the &#8220;whiz kid&#8221; label.  Ugh!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right when you say these things never heal, never leave you.  There are times I see myself slipping into old methods of blending in &#8211; pretending I don&#8217;t understand something, not speaking up when I see something which my experience tells me is wrong, etc.  Even at a balding, much older than 28 looking state, I still get people who confuse my intelligence and desire to share my experiences as trying to show them up.  It&#8217;s incredibly frustrating and I hate feeling like I need to dumb myself down in order to fit in.</p>
<p>Now that you can see my struggle, believe me when I say you&#8217;re not ugly.  You never were.  You weren&#8217;t back in 8th grade, you aren&#8217;t now.  I haven&#8217;t yet seen you in real life (I hope it isn&#8217;t &#8217;cause you&#8217;re afraid) but I have seen such tremendous beauty in you through our conversations and your writing.  You&#8217;re not supposed to fit in.  You weren&#8217;t supposed to back in 8th grade.  The people that fit in were boring.  They still are today.  I&#8217;d bet you&#8217;ve accomplished much more in your life than they have by many measures&#8230;and if nothing else, I highly doubt they have hundreds of readers a day peering at their web blogs.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let yourself be defined and constrained by what lay in the past &#8211; your future is an unwritten book.  And I&#8217;m fairly certain the plot of your book still has many twists and turned before it reaches its climax &#8211; I see all kinds of potential bottled up inside of you, just waiting to come out.</p>
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		By: Calli		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You were stronger than I was. For me, the teasing got so bad and the fear of embarassment and humiliation got so large that I broke down. I literally retreated from my life and that is a mistake that I am still paying for to this day. 

I&#039;m still struggling when it comes to finding some kind of personal success. I finally managed to complete something I started (graduated from a two-year tech school at 32), and I&#039;ve found someone who loves me. I have some very good friends.  

Yet, here I am, at 34, trying to find a job and living in fear of being called in for an interview. Who will want to hire me when they see I&#039;m fat?   In spite of the fact that I&#039;m intelligetn, witty, loved, etc, etc...  I still can&#039;t shake the idea that people will take one look at me and think, &quot;worthless, lazy, unacceptable.&quot; 

Some days I don&#039;t know what&#039;s worse, though - The pain of being teased or the way I allowed it to derail me for all of the years following. I tell myself I was just a kid, but I haven&#039;t totally forgiven myself for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You were stronger than I was. For me, the teasing got so bad and the fear of embarassment and humiliation got so large that I broke down. I literally retreated from my life and that is a mistake that I am still paying for to this day. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still struggling when it comes to finding some kind of personal success. I finally managed to complete something I started (graduated from a two-year tech school at 32), and I&#8217;ve found someone who loves me. I have some very good friends.  </p>
<p>Yet, here I am, at 34, trying to find a job and living in fear of being called in for an interview. Who will want to hire me when they see I&#8217;m fat?   In spite of the fact that I&#8217;m intelligetn, witty, loved, etc, etc&#8230;  I still can&#8217;t shake the idea that people will take one look at me and think, &#8220;worthless, lazy, unacceptable.&#8221; </p>
<p>Some days I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s worse, though &#8211; The pain of being teased or the way I allowed it to derail me for all of the years following. I tell myself I was just a kid, but I haven&#8217;t totally forgiven myself for it.</p>
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